The roundabout way



Traffic roundabout in Travellers Rest.

Traffic roundabout in Travellers Rest.

Published on October 13th, 2009
Published on June 21st, 2010
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Topics :
Prince Freight Lines , Connors Transfer , Travellers Rest , Charlottetown , Allen Street

Travellers Rest -

Three years after its completion, some drivers are still trying to get around it - literally and figuratively.
The traffic roundabout at the junction of Route 1A and Route 2 in Travellers Rest has been a source of debate among truckers and other motorists since it opened in 2006.
Drivers complained this first - and so far only - traffic circle on P.E.I. was built too small, earning it the nickname, "the bagel".
Frank Barry, owner of Prince Freight Lines, still maintains the roundabout is undersized, but said it's become commonplace for his drivers.
"It's still too small. It hasn't grown any in three years," he said. "We're kind of getting used to it. It's functional and there doesn't seem to be any major accidents or incidents. Nobody here really talks about it anymore."
Another traffic circle may be on the horizon - this time in Charlottetown at the corner of Allen Street and Mount Edward Road.
Depending on who you talk to, Summerside's roundabout could serve as an example of either how to or how not to construct one.
Mack MacLean, a dispatcher with Connors Transfer, said drivers were initially resistant to the circle, but those complaints are now nonexistent three years later.
"The drivers thought it was a bit too tight and too confined at first, but it's always the way with change - people have to get used to it," MacLean said.
"It slows down the traffic and makes things safer. You just have to be careful, conscious and mindful of what you're doing."
The traffic circle roadway is 18 feet wide at its smallest section, wide enough for the Province's snowplows, which carry blades about 12 feet wide, to navigate in the winter.
There is also a 22-foot-wide concrete skirt around the roundabout's median, designed so the back end of trucks can drive over it without damage to tires.
Still, Barry said the roundabout takes its toll on the equipment and can test a drivers' skill.
"You have to be more precise to get around it. The sharper the turn, the harder it is on the equipment," he said.
"If someone makes a mistake it's very hard to correct yourself because it's such a short distance around."

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    John
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:08:49

    Dear Complete Stop.....
    You are legally obligated to stop at all red lights and stop signs... even if you are about to turn right.

    Please take driver's ed before you kill someone whilst cutting them off.

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    Theresa
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:08:10

    I hate the round about, people don't know how to yield. They think because the last 10 cars went thru that they should get to go also.

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    Nate
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:07:46

    Uh Complete Stop - Please try not to educate anyone around you about rules of the road. Apparently you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Red means stop, green means go - That's the first lesson in driver education. Sign up and take a class, then others who have taken the class will be a whole lot safer from the likes of your pathetic driving skills. It scares me to think that you'd profess to know anything about driving when you've, in fact, printed how you normally drive.

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    George
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:07:37

    I know that the first time I came across a traffic circle it confused the heck out of me and I ended up having angry moterists giving me the bird and laying on their horns like manic idiots. Not wanting to go through that again I educated myself on the proper use of these circles. Heres what I learned, the inside lane on your left is for going around the circle to your exit, the outside lane on your right is for exiting, YOU MUST DO SHOULDER CHECKS to ensure that you arent cutting other moterists off when you switch from the inside lane to the outside lane. Easy concept to grasp but understandably confusing for those who have never used these circles and have never been correctly instructed. And you drivers that get angry with roadrage over these types of incidents are far more dangerous on the roads than these uninformed people will ever be.

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    Kit
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:07:33

    Um..john?...complete stop did not say these people were at stop signs or lights. This person means the ones that may be turning into a gas station, or their driveway, maybe. Why do you need to come to a complete stop, and then turn into the spot? And to east prince. I reported a vehicle, but the guy went by so fast I could not get the # of the truck.

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    Mike
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:07:25

    People can not drive down a strait road here so a circle really throws them off.

    Not to get too far off topic but here are a few other driving tips:

    1) Turning lanes are not passing lanes.
    2) Try putting your signal on before slamming your breaks to turn.
    3) If you want to stop and chat with your pal I could care less just dont do it in the middle of the road.

    Merging is a whole other story.

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    Birdseye
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:06:52

    It's somehow balanced to have the Red Bridge at one end and the Red Bagel at the other

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    BOB DOLE
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:06:49

    Hey (wanna bee from summerside)

    next time you post a comment please have an Adult help you.

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    East Prince Resident
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:06:18

    @Kit Kat: If someone from a well known trucking company whizzed by you on the right, please keep the roads, and yourself, safer by calling the company and reporting it. Companies take violations such as this very seriously, but can't do anything if it's not reported.

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    Birdseye
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:06:12

    Toured about PEI with a friend who travels regularly to Great Britain. Switches easily from driving one side of the road to the other. Now there's a trick!!

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    Lori
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:05:57

    I think the Round-about AKA Bagel has been a great improvement. I live right beside it and the Bagel has certainly reduced the amount of accidents there. I couldn't tell you how many accidents we seen or had to call 911 for before they changed the road around. I only recall 1 in the last 3 years and the guy who failed to go around the bagel, went right through the bagel, ended up on the island and had no tires left on his car BUT he had a few to many because he figured he could drive away while the car was on fire and had no front tires left. But that is the only real incident i can recall. The biggest problem I have with it is the fact that a lot of people have NO IDEA what Yeild means...Oh well I guess we can't have it all :)

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    BOB DOLE
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:05:46

    for the last three years i drove through the traffic circle. and everyday twice a day i would see people who had no idea how to drive around the bagel. i always wondered how these people managed to drive off Island. people would stop in the middle of the circle they would sit on one side waiting for all the traffic to leave the area so they could drive through? it was maddening, but sometimes funny, i usually took advantage of these poor drivers and drove right on through. now that i moved into Summerside. i hardly ever have to deal with it. I thought it was a joke when they had a training session for people, on how to drive in the circle, i think they need another one.

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    Phillip Ontakos
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:04:49

    there are 2 people commenting on here about what (Complete Stop to Make a right hand turn from Summerside,)said. and you both missed his point. he is not saying when at a red light or stop sign, he is talking about when drivers are turning into parking lots or driveways off a main road. they almost come to a complete stop to turn right. it drives me crazy and people who change lanes then signal, you are supposed to signal then lane change. & people who stop at merge lanes,they are just looking to cause an accident.

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    Nate
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:04:40

    Ahhh, yep you're right Phillip... My bad. Totally agree with your statements underneath as well.

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    wanna
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:03:33

    Wow , i love bob shole,he's the greatest,he's the smartest , i think he should train people , like how to do a bagel

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    John
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:02:55

    If you are turning right to get onto another street, you are many times at a light or a sign. My apologies for misreading, but my point is still valid.

    People just whip around the corner at reds without even looking.

    Sorry Complete Stop.

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    Kit
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:02:38

    I love the bagel. It does slow down traffic, although you do still have to be careful of the idiots who seem to think they own the thing and just fly through, but all in all it seems to be working. It sure beats waiting at the top of road for all the traffic to go by before you can even move an inch. It was a great move on the cities' part. As for Mike Hawks observations: you are bang on. The other day I was waiting to turn into my driveway, and the car behind me stopped too, but some idiot in a well known company truck whizzed by us both! ON THE RIGHT. Where are these peoples heads?

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    Complete Stop to
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:02:25

    My all time favorite is the drivers who signal to turn right, if they signal, and then come to a complete stop to go around a corner onto a street or into a driveway.
    Turning left I can see coming to a stop, if there is something coming, but turning right? Please just continue around the corner, don't stop....the road isn't going to disappear !

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